Heritage In-game economy - What can we do to improve it?

[Spiffdaddy]

any way im done i said all i can say.. its what ever at this point Granny said cant teach a old dog new tricks haha.so im out for good .. on this topic

 

[Spiffdaddy]

Then I am for an NPC that sells them as long as the price is reasonable for both sellers, and buyers.

glad you see the real picture man later its late here and have to go to dr n the am

 

[Spiffdaddy]

Heritage will never shut down due to a lack of donations or even players for that matter.

Heritage is supported by other, way more dependable, incomes.

I don't want people reading this to think the longevity of Heritage is in any way tied to the amount of donations recieved as this is not true.

think you told me that befor to im old i forget things haha night man

 

[nerv]

you may be right tho nerV ..........BUT then i woke up and saw all that red under your name.. i speak for other that to scard to speak on here.. i dont care if im liked or not .but every 1n game needs a voice "i have rather be REAl and hated and ignore Then loved for some 1 i pretend to be" i have a acount on ea cheasy. so i dont care what happends here im just trying help the server out tbh.....

Nice argument, "the red under your name" hahahaha If you dont care what happens here, idk why you are complaining.

Unlike you, i really care about this server, and i played on a server that sell a lot of items for gold on NPCs, the result was no one wast time searching some items, and just farm gold, like i said, you can make millions on one day.

The only thing you say is "need balance", what is unbalanced? The Sov items? For me this items are mid-game, you just use to search for better item PvMing...

If few players are selling SoV, and a lot want to buy, the price will go higher.

Instead making a npc sell, i think could be other ideas, like prize for some kind of event, but the moment that Staff set a price the server will flood with Sovs.

Probably heritage have player with millions and millions on the bank and if you merge the gold and sov you lose the point of having Sov on the first place. Just remove Sov and give player gold when he donate... will be much easier.

 

[Magus Zeal]

I would agree Nerv, except that there aren't really any unbalancing items in the SOV store - minor boosts really. Mostly, there are quality of life items:
Mystic Token
Anniversary Arties (that, you can't get by aging)
Crafter stuff
Some modded clothing
Ethies
Stupid expensive castles.

Assuming this stuff, (and I doubt it) floods the market. It wouldn't put a dent in the power creep. It's not like you can buy doom/shadowguard arties or anything of a significant balancing concern.

If those things WERE available, I would wholeheartedly agree. But as it stands, I think your making a mountain out of an anthill. Since the penny is no longer a coin in Canada, I'll say, this is my 5 cents

 

[Magus Zeal]

And, it wasn't that long ago that sovs WERE for sale for gold. Those players with "millions" evidently didn't use the store since Dan reported that those gold vendors were disused...

 

[Spiffdaddy]

Nice argument, "the red under your name" hahahaha If you dont care what happens here, idk why you are complaining.

Unlike you, i really care about this server, and i played on a server that sell a lot of items for gold on NPCs, the result was no one wast time searching some items, and just farm gold, like i said, you can make millions on one day.

The only thing you say is "need balance", what is unbalanced? The Sov items? For me this items are mid-game, you just use to search for better item PvMing...

If few players are selling SoV, and a lot want to buy, the price will go higher.

Instead making a npc sell, i think could be other ideas, like prize for some kind of event, but the moment that Staff set a price the server will flood with Sovs.

Probably heritage have player with millions and millions on the bank and if you merge the gold and sov you lose the point of having Sov on the first place. Just remove Sov and give player gold when he donate... will be much easier.

Omg Nerv i said im not careing to argue with a kid.. your worse then my 2 year son when you take a bottle out his mouth.... grow up let it go dang as stated million times there was items n game befor and was barly used ..you so lucky im no nark with ya lieing and crying.. your the main reason im on this thread because you pissed me off in game......... but im tired fussing with a kid tbh so im let it go.. my son has more common sence and he still wears dipers bye.dang cant even leave do to crying ....For the record i do care about the server i DO not care for this CRYING..... and thanks by the way for thumbing down every 1 my post i ever made awsome ...love it even went out the way to find old one s i saw thanks ....now for real im done i have said what i needed to say here........ one day karma get you for the things you do lurn to just let things go.... like said earler im done with this post.. but that dont mean i dont care about the players in the game im here for them to fight for justic and honor..not to her CRYing and wining becouse dady wants you to actualy work to get your gold... in a game maby that will teach you how to do things better in real life as well...PRaying for you bud....

 

[nerv]

Omg Nerv i said im not careing to argue with a kid.. your worse then my 2 year son when you take a bottle out his mouth.... grow up let it go dang as stated million times there was items n game befor and was barly used ..you so lucky im no nark with ya lieing and crying.. your the main reason im on this thread because you pissed me off in game......... but im tired fussing with a kid tbh so im let it go.. my son has more common sence and he still wears dipers bye.dang cant even leave do to crying ....For the record i do care about the server i DO not care for this CRYING..... and thanks by the way for thumbing down every 1 my post i ever made awsome ...love it even went out the way to find old one s i saw thanks ....now for real im done i have said what i needed to say here........ one day karma get you for the things you do lurn to just let things go.... like said earler im done with this post.. but that dont mean i dont care about the players in the game im here for them to fight for justic and honor..not to her CRYing and wining becouse dady wants you to actualy work to get your gold... in a game maby that will teach you how to do things better in real life as well...PRaying for you bud....

Lier, i thumb down 2 post that you try to offend me instead of argue, like thiss one .
You said i pissed you in game, i dont even know you online.. lul what i did ingame to piss you off.

 

[nerv]

I would agree Nerv, except that there aren't really any unbalancing items in the SOV store - minor boosts really. Mostly, there are quality of life items:
Mystic Token
Anniversary Arties (that, you can't get by aging)
Crafter stuff
Some modded clothing
Ethies
Stupid expensive castles.

Assuming this stuff, (and I doubt it) floods the market. It wouldn't put a dent in the power creep. It's not like you can buy doom/shadowguard arties or anything of a significant balancing concern.

If those things WERE available, I would wholeheartedly agree. But as it stands, I think your making a mountain out of an anthill. Since the penny is no longer a coin in Canada, I'll say, this is my 5 cents

Agree with you, but like someone said before, the donations will drop if you can buy Sov for gold from a NPC, because making gold is so much easy. I think donation drop is a problem, not like the server will go down, i doubt that, but in my opinion is a bad thing.

And if you could trade Gold for Sov, there is no more point to keep 2 currencies, just give gold for the donations, and extinguish the Sov..

 

[Magus Zeal]

Agree with you, but like someone said before, the donations will drop if you can buy Sov for gold from a NPC, because making gold is so much easy. I think donation drop is a problem, not like the server will go down, i doubt that, but in my opinion is a bad thing.

And if you could trade Gold for Sov, there is no more point to keep 2 currencies, just give gold for the donations, and extinguish the Sov..

I disagree. SOVS will still sell. The main draw is the "quick and easy path". Those drawn to the dark side will surely buy...

 

[Brosephine]

Certain NPCs should not have had their sell option removed. The jeweler for instance. Who in their right mind is doing to go out of their way to buy jewels off players when the vendor there still sells them? It's not even worth the time it takes to add them to a loot filter anymore. That does little to established players but newer players who sold jewels for extra gold get the short end of the stick.

100% agree with Dew. This change is rubbish for the jeweler. I would spend an hour doing solen quests and be able to sell the gems I collected to the jeweler for a nice, additional 30 - 40k (oh, and by the way, the fact that I do the solen quests and sell those items helps the economy.) Now you're telling me to take those gems... let's go price per 100... and put citrine and amber on a vendor for ~5k, ruby and tourmaline for ~7.5k, star sapphire, sapphire, emerald, and amethyst for ~10k, and diamond at ~20k to even come close to what the NPC would yield. This is SO. MUCH. EXTRA. HASSLE. Both for players to come to my shop and buy them just MINIMALLY cheaper than the convenience of buying them in Luna (which I don't believe people will do), AND I lose money, AND I have to wait for them to sell (which they may or may not) rather than getting the money instantly.

Yup. Bad change.

 

[Magus Zeal]

100% agree with Dew. This change is rubbish for the jeweler. I would spend an hour doing solen quests and be able to sell the gems I collected to the jeweler for a nice, additional 30 - 40k (oh, and by the way, the fact that I do the solen quests and sell those items helps the economy.) Now you're telling me to take those gems... let's go price per 100... and put citrine and amber on a vendor for ~5k, ruby and tourmaline for ~7.5k, star sapphire, sapphire, emerald, and amethyst for ~10k, and diamond at ~20k to even come close to what the NPC would yield. This is SO. MUCH. EXTRA. HASSLE. Both for players to come to my shop and buy them just MINIMALLY cheaper than the convenience of buying them in Luna (which I don't believe people will do), AND I lose money, AND I have to wait for them to sell (which they may or may not) rather than getting the money instantly.

Yup. Bad change.

Just chiming in - miners get so many gems. This was a compromise to remove the afk mining gump...so...if you want brosephine, ill buy all your gems. Just message me (This is Magus BTW)

 

[Magus Zeal]

A great feature would be to have a special kind of player vendor that can buy stuff from players. Just set a buy price and the vendor takes the stuff and drops it in the bank of that player. that would be really cool

 

[DewCono]

A great feature would be to have a special kind of player vendor that can buy stuff from players. Just set a buy price and the vendor takes the stuff and drops it in the bank of that player. that would be really cool

Isn't this how new magincia works?

 

[Dan]

Yes it is.

Scroll down and check out the Commodity Broker:

https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/gameplay/npc-commercial-transactions/the-new-magincia-bazaar/

 

[Magus Zeal]

Yes it is.

Scroll down and check out the Commodity Broker:

https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/gameplay/npc-commercial-transactions/the-new-magincia-bazaar/

Always learning something new

 

[Omalley]

Yes it is.

Scroll down and check out the Commodity Broker:

https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/gameplay/npc-commercial-transactions/the-new-magincia-bazaar/

I would like to be able to just buy these vendors (animal dealer 7 commodity broker) in deed form, so we can place them in our shops.. the market place is a cool idea.. for massive communities.. but i would much rather just have them in my house..

on a side note.. i had no idea the commodity broker could BUY items.. now i really want one in my house!!

 

[Zaksmeer]

I been reading most of these posts, and have to ask for Dan's opinion, will NPC vendors ever be allowed to buy our "junk loot" that we do not want?

 

[Dan]

I been reading most of these posts, and have to ask for Dan's opinion, will NPC vendors ever be allowed to buy our "junk loot" that we do not want?

With the removal of the CAPTCHA (anti afk system) we removed vendors ability to purchase items from players. This is also how it has always been on the Siege Perilous shard. Fast forward 19 years and Siege has the most stable and realistic UO economy. (though there are many other factors that contribute to that)

 

[xG00BERx]

I came across these videos and thought they were very neat & very interesting in regards to the types of players and I figured it would be a good idea to place them here..