Investigating Pet exploit

[Magus Zeal]

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There is an exploit that allows people with 0 taming/lore to gain lvl 5 pets.

Steps to reproduce:

Get 120/taming lore
Get a lvl 5 pet
Stone off 120/taming lore

Now I get a lvl 5 pet without investing 240 skill points.

I think this is possible due to a loyalty "fix" that was implemented years ago to prevent pets from disowning owners unpredictably. I think that was a good fix and that this was an unforeseen consequence.

I think another fix to eject any pet to the stable owned by a player that has insufficient taming/lore would solve this issue.

 

[FireFly]

So according to osi players you can use 5slot mounts with no taming, it wont listen to commands but also wont go wild

 

[Magus Zeal]

Your warg was chasing me down and doin 24 damage a hit with dex that made it like a machine gun. Are you saying that should be the new meta for pvp? It was a much greater threat than you. I can just imagine getting a group together. Dismount and lol as your pets destroy everything.

 

[Ardan]

And just because you can't cope with something, do we have to change it? It's just an animal with max skills and there's no stopping you from riding one.

 

[FireFly]

...It was a much greater threat than you...

Yeah mainly bcs catch your mage while you run in circle is kind of impossible with dexxer xD

Whatever if you can ride 5slot pets on osi i dont get why here we cant.

Like i said i asked and pets also will fight enemy back if they attack those on osi.

Wargs got an aura so it can hit and trigger fight that way

Post automatically merged: Apr 21, 2024

Not anyone fault some people trained their mounts and instead of use points for hp and hpr also add special move

 

[Dan]

I know on EA you can still mount tamer pets if you soulstone the skills off, however they will no longer listen to your commands.

The question I have now is, do they still auto guard following that last command if their control master no longer has the appropriate skill to otherwise set that command?

@Xeno any idea? Or any one else here with an active subscription/tamer?

 

[Ardan]

I know on EA you can still mount tamer pets if you soulstone the skills off, however they will no longer listen to your commands.

The question I have now is, do they still auto guard following that last command if their control master no longer has the appropriate skill to otherwise set that command?

@Xeno any idea? Or any one else here with an active subscription/tamer?

The animal remains on auto guard, probably until the shard is restarted, I don't remember exactly, but it is a short period. Later, the animal does what it wants. He doesn't listen to any commands. Attacks when attacked by a player or another animal.

 

[Dan]

The animal remains on auto guard, probably until the shard is restarted, I don't remember exactly, but it is a short period. Later, the animal does what it wants. He doesn't listen to any commands. Attacks when attacked by a player or another animal.

Alright thanks. That sounds similar to what happens on production though maybe we do need a control check on auto guard to drop it immediately after the skill to control is no longer there.

 

[FireFly]

Im sure after drop taming after command all guard on pet = reset command to follow.
But pet still attack any player/mob that deal dmg to tamed pet

 

[Xeno]

I know on EA you can still mount tamer pets if you soulstone the skills off, however they will no longer listen to your commands.

The question I have now is, do they still auto guard following that last command if their control master no longer has the appropriate skill to otherwise set that command?

@Xeno any idea? Or any one else here with an active subscription/tamer?

My account is currently not open but I have never tried that either.

A tamed [et will always defend from another player or mob that attacks it but from what I remember, it no longer follows the owner after defending itself and I would have to tell it to follow me. If that is still the case, the tamer with the removed skills would then have to follow it and mount it or it would wander away.

Without tame and lore, its loyalty should degrade rather quickly but I worry if you mess with that it may affect the overall loyalty making tame pets go wild quickly even if the tamer had 120 lore and tame.

 

[Dan]

My account is currently not open but I have never tried that either.

A tamed [et will always defend from another player or mob that attacks it but from what I remember, it no longer follows the owner after defending itself and I would have to tell it to follow me. If that is still the case, the tamer with the removed skills would then have to follow it and mount it or it would wander away.

Without tame and lore, its loyalty should degrade rather quickly but I worry if you mess with that it may affect the overall loyalty making tame pets go wild quickly even if the tamer had 120 lore and tame.

Controlled bonded pets do not lose loyalty on Heritage. If the pet itself is attacked it should defend itself, that only makes sense. Otherwise, I don't believe it should come to its owner's aid if the controlling skills are not present.

 

[FireFly]

And actually defending owner never happend

 

[Xeno]

It only defends itself, not an owner unless it is guarding but that always drops off after it guards a couple of times. It should not be permanent.

 

[Magus Zeal]

Do any pets on EA have a continuous damage aura?

 

[Magus Zeal]

That pet is dangerous! I didn't bother recording anything when I was fighting, but its basically my experience. You get in to a melee bout with a dexxer in pvp and their lvl4 pets starts proccing specials on you with crazy high dex. While I'm not an EA player, I doubt this scenario could exist there, if we are using them as our yardstick. It makes for a very specific competitive meta if its allowed, which would basically be do or die.

AND that pet runs faster than a dismounted player. Weren't pets made to be slower than a footer in pvp mode?

 

[FireFly]

They were not made to be slower unless you active command them to all kill on target.
Crazy high dex? 150on those is max?

Should seen one of brk and their triton run faster than anything and keep 1tile distance from other players after all kill command.

But wait no one complained about that so why bother with something you also have in stable?

Post automatically merged: May 5, 2024

No one on screen was on foot anyway and pet not be able to catch even with owner?

 

[FireFly]

Do any pets on EA have a continuous damage aura?

Yes + on EA those pets actually can be mounted? Those beetles from tokuno got exact same type of aoe

 

[Neppo]

If the person dies they should lose control of the PET, it doesn't make sense for the dead person to give commands to the PET. This needs to be adjusted.

 

[BBB]

If the person dies they should lose control of the PET, it doesn't make sense for the dead person to give commands to the PET. This needs to be adjusted.

If you made any effort to read the previous posts you would know that this pet doesn't listen to any commands. Additionally, no pets listen to commands when its owner is dead.

 

[Dan]

If the person dies they should lose control of the PET, it doesn't make sense for the dead person to give commands to the PET. This needs to be adjusted.

In testing I have been unable to give commands to a pet under my control when dead. I tried without the proper skills being present and even again with the proper skills. Any new commands are simply ignored.