FIXED Summons does not toggle monsters to attack you/your summons as [Young]

Mrriots

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When you are young a monster in open areas are never a threat, if you do not direct attack them.
Spell / Auto Attack / Weapon etc.

If you use a summon tho, such as Energy Vortex, Animate Dead and so far, your summons are able to attack the monster and it will stay passive, like nothing happened.
It will not attack the summons and not the young player. You can stand by idle while the harmless monster just get bashed down and not fighting back.

This does not work with tamed creatures. Tamed creatures will get attacked. Only young player summons.
This has been tried in Ilshenar, Ter Mur, Tukuno Islands, Trammel.
Dungeon monsters will always be harmfull.
 

Dexter

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How is it supposed to work? Are the summons supposed to attack, or not attack when you're young?
 

Dan

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So what I think we are looking at here is:

When summons go attack creatures the creature agros on the summons but never seems to "learn" that you were the one who casted it.

Question players: If you are positive karma and release a blade spirit, will it attack say, a Cu? If the Cu kills it does the Cu notice that you casted it and then target you?

Lastly - What happens on production? I can test that after we get some more player feedback.
 
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Mrriots

Mrriots

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The summons to not toggle any aggro. The creature stays passive all along. Remember this does not count for dungeons, so Cus are a bad example.

Casting spells including summons should make you a target for the creature since you innate a fight.

Now casting a spell does this.
Casting a summon does not.

So the "Cu" or whatever will never learn who the inniator was because it never aggros or attack the summons. Turning this into a goldmining exploit since you can farm endlessly with no threat ever.
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And summons such as EV and Blade Spirit are always suppose to attack. And draw aggro after dispel/death
 

Dexter

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This is becoming more confusing than it needs to be. Are summons supposed attack grey monsters if the caster is young? Meaning, is this how it works on EA?
 
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Mrriots

Mrriots

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Energy Vortex and Blade Spirits are red "Evil" and will attack anything around them, even if the caster is young. I have not heard or seen of any other ways. (Of course I havent played EA since early 2000s)

They are spells, spells will turn monsters against you, such as they do now. Cast a fireball at a hiryu and it will attack you. :

From EA:
Monsters that would normally react in a hostile manner will not attack young players, except in self defense, unless they are quest monsters . (you will receive a message in your journal if a monster wants to attack you so you can learn which monsters are hostile)

But right now EV/BS just attack the monster/creature and the monster/creature does not react. It does not defend themselfs. SO they stand there until they die.
 

Dan

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We need to drop the Young player part.

I believe the real issue, if there is one, is that if you cast a summons, on say a Unicorn, as a blue player, the Unicorn will kill the summons but then ignore the player who casted it, YOUNG OR NOT, when after the summons dies shouldn't the unicorn now target you as the asshole you casted it? I will test this on production and report back.
 
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Mrriots

Mrriots

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That would be the case if youre not young. When youre young the Unicorn in this scenario does not react nor attack the summon back. Just passively stand still.
 

Dexter

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we need to test on EA somehow. It could work 1 of 3 ways, and all we're doing at this point is guessing...

1. Works as it does on ServUO (unlikely but possible)
2. Summons Won't attack if the summon master is young
3. Summons attack, but monsters attack back. If this is the case, we also need to find out if the monster adds the summon master to their aggressed list as they should, or not because they are young.
 

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