FIXED Sent to Jail for Macro Carpentry (low priority in imo)

[Magus Zeal]

So, I wrote a script to craft items for carpentry and fill bods. I was sent to jail apparently for afk macroing. I think the recycling with an axe is counted as lumber-jacking and sends up a captcha. Not sure why else it would throw me in jail. "Sorry"

 

[Elamor]

If it works like other "anti afk scripts", it is called everytime you use gathering tool. Even axe while removing furniture at home. Make macro to just dbl click axe, target anything and spaaam it.

Help us fight this captcha bullying!

 

[Elamor]

* spaaam it to test it and not to lag server

 

[RedBeard]

I despise gathering period because of the craptcha... There needs to be a better way. All because of cheaters, this is all their fault. Maybe just put a hard limit on resources per accnt or per 24hr period of harvest (or some reasonable time frame). Also I don't think fishing should be included, so far my fish steaks aren't flying off the shelf on my vendor LMAO and all the good stuff requires baits or being in dungeons etc...not to mention mobs spawn as a result of fishing [For the longest time SOS's and Special Nets were dropping like flies and incorrectly in spite of the Captcha] I too sometimes get thrown in jail but its because my macro interferes with captcha or I hit the wrong button in my haste, annoying.

 

[Omalley]

I despise gathering period because of the craptcha... There needs to be a better way. All because of cheaters, this is all their fault. Maybe just put a hard limit on resources per accnt or per 24hr period of harvest (or some reasonable time frame). Also I don't think fishing should be included, so far my fish steaks aren't flying off the shelf on my vendor LMAO and all the good stuff requires baits or being in dungeons etc...not to mention mobs spawn as a result of fishing [For the longest time SOS's and Special Nets were dropping like flies and incorrectly in spite of the Captcha] I too sometimes get thrown in jail but its because my macro interferes with captcha or I hit the wrong button in my haste, annoying.

Games are supposed to be fun.. captcha removes that fun.. Agree 100% has to be a better way.. We have hundreds of BODs, and no resources to fill them.. so... till then, I just wont gather.. which in my case means, I will rarely play.. no resources.. no crafty, no crafty.. no fun.. and harder to get resources, means higher prices at the vendor shops.. SO if that fort powder is too high.. dont blame me.. its just not worth mining for ore at a price any lower that 75k

 

[Magus Zeal]

I think we need to start a new thread discussing the pro's and con's of the captcha. This thread is dealing with, what I believe, is an unintended consequence which is getting a bit off-topic. I am definitely not resource gathering when recycling my non-exceptional carpentry items

 

[Dan]

So lets say I DO get rid of the CAPTCHA, (only due to the issue with the enhanced client)

My time to police the shard is very limited. That being said if I did catch people, who could not respond in a timely manner, I would have to be tough. Like ban accounts, delete items, tough. No questions asked.

The rules are the rules.

 

[Elamor]

A said it before. What about reworking it? Keep captcha up but make it less annoying?

Create another "player gained points" like ToTs are. Just hide them. Everytime you gain resources (obtain wood or ore from gathering¨), youll gain 1 point a system will check for captcha popup chance. But do there a random -captcha points after each check like...

gather resources = +1CP (Captcha point)
check for captcha popup= CP / 10 000 //or how likely will be test
if captcha responded true= CP = CP - (CP + RNG(0 to 20 000))

There will be longer pauses, but you can still be randomly tested anytime. Noone should be sure to have that "clear" window to go afk.

 

[Magus Zeal]

The pain point is that the BOD system is designed to consume 100's of 1000's of materials, and crafters have to gather their own. Another option could be that, during a powerhour, resources are doubled for miners/lumberjacks?

 

[Omalley]

So lets say I DO get rid of the CAPTCHA, (only due to the issue with the enhanced client)

My time to police the shard is very limited. That being said if I did catch people, who could not respond in a timely manner, I would have to be tough. Like ban accounts, delete items, tough. No questions asked.

The rules are the rules.

More power to ya.. Ban them, take there shit.. idc.. those who wanna break the rules, have to pay the price.. wont effect those of US who play the game w/o cheating. The only type of macro i use to mine is a last object macro, and a current tile macro.. I want to be able to fill the close to 4000 bods i have.. but trying to get colored ore is hard.. and the captcha straight turns me off, I understand the rules.. and you wont catch me using scripts to afk gather.. I prefer to PLAY the game, not let the game PLAY ITSELF. Im 100% down for a new system, im 100% down for no system..But more importantly, IM 1000% down for more resources in game!! Being more of a crafter, than a hunter.. this is very important for a player such as me.. theres no system in place, to stop AFK mob farming.. so IMO there shouldnt be anything for those who prefer to hunt wood & ore! I would love to help you police this kind of activity.. but i know how you feel about more staff.. so i wont even go there

 

[Omalley]

Another idea i had, and im not sure if this is do-able.. How about once a correct captcha imgae has been picked, you dont get another for 30 minutes? This would do as Elamor said, Make it less annoying, a correct answer gives you 30 minutes to to mine, captcha free Just an idea.. do with it as you will..

 

[Magus Zeal]

So, to summarize the suggestions:

1. Make the captcha less 'aggressive"
2. Keep the captcha but find some way to allow crafters to accumulate resources easier so they spend less time gathering (and thus, less time clicking captcha's)
3. Remove the captcha and police (I honestly don't like the idea of taking Dan's time away from other priorities for enforcement...so...)

 

[Magus Zeal]

Another idea would maybe be a "catpcha holiday" say once a week. Where it is disabled?

 

[Elamor]

Well, I am that one guy who like scripting in UO. I like to find the way how to make things easy, but... I am not competitive player vs others. Its me vs game.
And there is this "resource" problem. I need imbuer, crafter etc to supply my combat characters and I dont want to give that some gold I have for supply, while I still cant earn it faster (cca 1,5h for that 75k pof).

And there is much sweeter challenge... make easyuo to solve this captchas . And that resized img is pain in ass.

 

[Omalley]

Well i mined on Heritage for the 1st time in probably 3-4 months.. i needed some stone, and i was bored enough to go and attempt to gather.. and to my surprise.. a revamped captcha.. Im no fan of this system what so ever, and would rather see it gone.. but.. i have to give @Dan props for reworking the system.. if you are getting jailed with the new system, then you are breaking the rules, plain and simple.. with the original system I was being jailed 5-6 times in a 2-3 hour mining session.. now im not getting jailed at all.. the delay makes it so you dont accidentally click it, when you meant to click the ground, to mine.. but out of complete honesty, i would rather see 10k ingots @ 10k gold.. than not have any at all.. but with this new captcha system, those of us who do not cheat, shouldn't have any issues with it.

 

[Necrodog]

I think the recycling with an axe is counted as lumber-jacking and sends up a captcha. Not sure why else it would throw me in jail. "Sorry"

It absolutely does. I can confirm i got afk checked like 50x while bringing up carpentry, lol.

 

[Elf]

Well i mined on Heritage for the 1st time in probably 3-4 months.. i needed some stone, and i was bored enough to go and attempt to gather.. and to my surprise.. a revamped captcha.. Im no fan of this system what so ever, and would rather see it gone.. but.. i have to give @Dan props for reworking the system.. if you are getting jailed with the new system, then you are breaking the rules, plain and simple.. with the original system I was being jailed 5-6 times in a 2-3 hour mining session.. now im not getting jailed at all.. the delay makes it so you dont accidentally click it, when you meant to click the ground, to mine.. but out of complete honesty, i would rather see 10k ingots @ 10k gold.. than not have any at all.. but with this new captcha system, those of us who do not cheat, shouldn't have any issues with it.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I love scripting and macroing to do the redundant, mind-numbing stuff just as much as anyone else, but the rules are the rules and this system does exactly what it's intended to do. I was macroing fishing from the dock while playing League of Legends in full screen, and I was in jail when I came back to the UO window. Simply put, it works.

 

[Dan]

This issue has been fixed.

More to follow on the CAPTCHA system. Many changes have been made and a whole new system is being implemented. One of the fixes is the system will no longer proc when chopping items, digging t-maps, ect.