Online name opt out

[Shakyj]

Can we get the ability to opt our name out of the online command? I don't mind being in the count but I don't want my name on there.

 

[Dan]

What are some reasons for this? Just wondering is all.

 

[Omalley]

Why shakeyJ? convince us to vote to have opting out, lets have a discussion on it..

 

[Jester]

He is in witness protection obviously...

My concern would be PK hunting, If someone has a PK and frequently goes to say Baracoon, I could get in the habit to check [online and leave before they get there.

 

[Shakyj]

Same reason I don't have social media accounts/have my photo online/reveal my true name anywhere. (I mean Dan knows my name from purchasing sovs but that didn't come lightly)

I work in data and I know how that can be used against me. As much as it's not real life and not the same risks here are a few examples.

"I have a spawner char - when it's online come raid me"

"I have a raider char - when it's offline do raids"

"I have a char you don't like that farms certain things - when it's online grief me"

"I log on at certain times - you know when to grief me"

I could make a macro in about 10 minutes that logs when people are online and log it to a DB then in about 2 weeks tell you where in the world most players are and what time zones they play in.

What are the benefits to me? Nada
What are the downsides for me? The above and more

 

[Jester]

Is it possible to allow us to select 1 character or 1 account to show online, that was you get more accurate number then 10 people have 3 accounts on so [online shows 30 people.

 

[Omalley]

What are the benefits to me? Nada

If a new player logs in, and can see players online, he will be more apt to stay and play, than move on.. Thats a benefit to everyone, yep, I can be seen online and can be griefed, but there will always be upsides and down sides.

 

[Jester]

Same reason I don't have social media accounts/have my photo online/reveal my true name anywhere. (I mean Dan knows my name from purchasing sovs but that didn't come lightly)

I work in data and I know how that can be used against me. As much as it's not real life and not the same risks here are a few examples.

"I have a spawner char - when it's online come raid me"

"I have a raider char - when it's offline do raids"

"I have a char you don't like that farms certain things - when it's online grief me"

"I log on at certain times - you know when to grief me"

I could make a macro in about 10 minutes that logs when people are online and log it to a DB then in about 2 weeks tell you where in the world most players and and what time zones they play in.

What are the benefits to me? Nada
What are the downsides for me? The above and more

I tend to agree, and as i said before, if it is just to show new players the "Real count" then it will be inaccurate for the reasons i mentioned above, I have all 4 of my accounts and usually have any 3 on at a time, so i count as 3 online.

 

[Shakyj]

Tbh given enough data points I could probably tell you what characters are on the same account so I know when your PK account is online doing something else like doom

 

[Shakyj]

If a new player logs in, and can see players online, he will be more apt to stay and play, than move on.. Thats a benefit to everyone, yep, I can be seen online and can be griefed, but there will always be upsides and down sides.

What's to stop Dan making 40 accounts and buffing that number anyway so it's not "real" any more than a count would be.

Like I said I'm perfectly fine for the same system but instead of my name on the board as is now it says "name opted out" or something similar

 

[Dan]

Tbh given enough data points I could probably tell you what characters are on the same account so I know when your PK account is online doing something else like doom

Unlikely there as this does not even log accounts just real mobiles names. Account is not even referenced once in the [online command script.

 

[Dan]

What's to stop Dan making 40 accounts and buffing that number anyway so it's not "real" any more than a count would be.

Like I said I'm perfectly fine for the same system but instead of my name on the board as is now it says "name opted out" or something similar

I do like that idea. OPTED OUT or something.

 

[Shakyj]

Unlikely there as this does not even log accounts just real mobiles names. Account is not even referenced once in the [online command script.

No but if a character disappears off the board and 10s later another one appears and that happens on multiple occasions, given a bit of logic to understand what the chance is of that happening at random and I can tell when it's the same player and then by looking at what other characters are that same player and online at the same time I can work out accounts.

 

[Omalley]

I do like that idea. OPTED OUT or something.

Meh.. like i said, if someone opted out, then might as well just link to Uoportal, on the website.. There will always be someone who dislikes a system, sometimes its you, sometimes its me. (and by you, i dont mean you ShakyJ, just using the word "you" as a reference)

I dont mind my name being displayed as online.

 

[Shakyj]

I could find out who miss piggy is though

 

[fallenangel]

Lets keep it on till at least we find out who Miss Piggy is

 

[Miss Piggy]

I AM MISS PIGGY!! And MISS PIGGY MEANS! ME!! ...and just to chime in, Im fine with having my name displayed as online!

 

[RedBeard]

I'm okay with my name being displayed as online. Don't care for the opt-out idea though.

 

[Jester]

Now that i have seen the system in play, and have given it some thought, I feel like this system does not really meet the need as it gives a bloated number as well, as it is accounting for each character online rather than each player, I would prefer it to just be changed to give you a count for each IP that is connected this would give you a real count of players on the server as well as keep everyone logged on anonymous.

 

[xG00BERx]

Now that i have seen the system in play, and have given it some thought, I feel like this system does not really meet the need as it gives a bloated number as well, as it is accounting for each character online rather than each player, I would prefer it to just be changed to give you a count for each IP that is connected this would give you a real count of players on the server as well as keep everyone logged on anonymous.

I mean, we could just remove it altogether.