Not A Bug Put into heat of battle

Iyaoyas

Newbie III
Community Supporter
Ok, I will try to explain this the best I can. This has happened multiple times. So there are 5 of us in a party, and we are all in the same guild. We will be fighting Dark Father, Harrower, or any other champ spawns. So Mat erial, Noah, Goober, Sephi, and myself will be fighting the mob. Mat and myself have pets, so let's say goober accidentally does dmg to sephi, they then both go into heat of battle, if I heal or cure them then I also go into heat of battle, and it keeps going until all 5 are in the heat of battle. Now everytime anyone does a AoE spell, weapon skill it hits our pets. Our pets then target them and attack our party/guild members.
 

Jester

Neophyte II
This is pretty annoying, but I believe the part that Iyaoyas is missing and the root of the issue is that most the players are in the VVV system, so when we heal them after the initial heat of the battle it will flag the healer to hotb.. it informs the 2nd party (not the healed target but the other person participating in the combat) that they are being attacked by the healer.

If VVV is the cause, is there a way to add a check to see if the combat is part of the VVV system before flagging the healer as attacking them?

I normally would not care but with pets it gets annoying as when guarded they will attack the closest threat to you, which could be the guild mate.
 

Iyaoyas

Newbie III
Community Supporter
I didnt think so, but maybe. I cant remember which one of these toons are VVV. Either way it is annoying. I take my PVM toon to Doom, not my pvp (vvv) toon. If I heal my teammate/ guild mate and it puts me in heat of battle then I would he able to be attacked if another faction vvv toon showed up
 

Jester

Neophyte II
I didnt think so, but maybe. I cant remember which one of these toons are VVV. Either way it is annoying. I take my PVM toon to Doom, not my pvp (vvv) toon. If I heal my teammate/ guild mate and it puts me in heat of battle then I would he able to be attacked if another faction vvv toon showed up
Well that part I get, dont participate in a vvv fight unless you want to be a potential target, but I think it needs to check that it is not a rival vvv combat before flagging, the hotb status can last a while, I think Frank and I stayed flagged several rounds of doom because we were not out of combat long enough for it to go away.

On that note, it seems to stay as long as you are in combat, not even attacking each other, meaning as long as I am in pve combat my pvp flag is in.. seems like it should be based on last pvp action
 

Dexter

Staff Member
Lead Developer
Game Master
Moderator
Healing anyone with others in their aggressed list makes you an aggressor now. That was changed a few months ago and is consistent with EA.
 

Dan

Staff Member
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Healing anyone with others in their aggressed list makes you an aggressor now. That was changed a few months ago and is consistent with EA.
I may be 100% wrong but what if the aggressor is simply on noncontrolled monsters and nothing involving PvP if the VVV guy is only on a monsters aggressor list why couldn't he be healed on a Trammel based facet? They are not "VvVing" at the time.
 

Dexter

Staff Member
Lead Developer
Game Master
Moderator
This only happens when you've aggressed another player. It has nothign to do with VvV, has to do with new mechanics regarding healing a player who has aggressed.
 

Omalley

Journeyman II
Community Supporter
Healing someone who is flagged for PvP flags the healer for PvP.. Its that way in almost every mmo. If the healer didn't flag, you could bring a healer thats not in VvV and they could just stand back and heal, and never be attacked.. The way it is makes perfect sense.. If ya dont wanna be flagged then dont heal anyone but yerself... Simple.
 

xG00BERx

Apprentice II
Community Supporter
Healing someone who is flagged for PvP flags the healer for PvP.. Its that way in almost every mmo. If the healer didn't flag, you could bring a healer thats not in VvV and they could just stand back and heal, and never be attacked.. The way it is makes perfect sense.. If ya dont wanna be flagged then dont heal anyone but yerself... Simple.
I havent seen you pvp... ever. Still waiting...
 

Omalley

Journeyman II
Community Supporter
And you wont.. Fel doesn't even exist to me... Im not attracted to the combat side of UO that much, the fact that you can thrive in UO w/o ever raising a sword, is what brings me back over and over again.. go ahead and bash me all you want.. i suck at PvP, im old, my reaction time is not what it used to be.. MAIN reason when i do get into combat, i use a tamer, and say "all guard"
 

xG00BERx

Apprentice II
Community Supporter
And you wont.. Fel doesn't even exist to me... Im not attracted to the combat side of UO that much, the fact that you can thrive in UO w/o ever raising a sword, is what brings me back over and over again.. go ahead and bash me all you want.. i suck at PvP, im old, my reaction time is not what it used to be.. MAIN reason when i do get into combat, i use a tamer, and say "all guard"
Fair.
 
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