FIXED Bug with BoDs.

Coyotemoon

Newbie III
Community Supporter
Turning in a BoD and when the gump for choosing points or saving points comes up if you should happen to misclick and close the box you lose the entire BoD dont get either points to spend/bank or the scroll back. It did mark it as complete as it let me get another BoD, but misclicking should give either BoD back or default to bank points at least.
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
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No sorry, single clicking rewards did nothing Omalley. If that worked how would i know that it did not add to my point total???
 

Dexter

Staff Member
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Turning in a BoD and when the gump for choosing points or saving points comes up if you should happen to misclick and close the box you lose the entire BoD dont get either points to spend/bank or the scroll back. It did mark it as complete as it let me get another BoD, but misclicking should give either BoD back or default to bank points at least.
It should, as in this is how it works on EA or logically is how it should work?
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
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i dont play on Official so i cannot say. i cant believe closing the pop up is meant to make sure you get no reward at all.
 

Dexter

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I disagree. Its the same logic (though stupid) where closing the accept bod gump makes you lose that bod. Also, when I wrote the new bod system, I tested it extensively on EA so I'm sure that is normal behavior.
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
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so i tested this for you, I made an char on official and went out and got money together so i could complete a bod. and in fact you can right click on the gump all day and it does not go away. I had to go to a gate to get it to close without me choosing. Next i went back to the blacksmith and clicked claim reward and the same gump popped up asking to choose again.

2 points here Either you did not test it nearly as well as you thought and this was an oversight
and either way you seemed to think this was a poor design. i thought the whole point of this shard and what you did was fix things you did not really like/agree with. so even if you were right and this was Working as Intended on Official, Why would you not want to fix it?

Either way perhaps not be so sure that you are correct about things when you were wrong in that it works to not close the gump on OS and even if you somehow manage to do so it still lets you pick. They literally made this unfuckupable. perhaps we could too?
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
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also i would provide pics of this as proof, but i dont do video and pics would not really help show that right clicking does nothing nor that you get the gump back if you do.
 

Dexter

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My point is, don’t expect Dan and I to run to EA every time someone suspects something is a bug, especially when your not sure it’s a bug in the first place. In all actuality, this particular bug worked out exactly how it should. You see something wonky, and YOU do the verification on EA. It saves me a ton of time doing this, when more than half the time, it’s not a bug. So yea, good job and thank you for verifying. Next time you can leave out the lecture on what I shouldn’t and should not be doing.
 

Dan

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Not to harp in on this but I have stated this in the rules since day 1.

Besides managing this community we (MOSTLY Dexter) manage the ServUO code base for the hundreds of people who download and use it. Heritage plays a crucial part in this because, lucky us, we find most the bugs.

Players will always find unique ways to do something or complete certain things with unintended consequences. Dexter and myself work full time jobs. We do as much as we can, when we can. We really rely on the players help. This is why we have the report a bug for sovereigns program.

The more detail and time put in to investigate a bug, the more sovereigns you can earn. Between work and managing this server and ServUO if we investigated, in full, every bug we got we would never get anything done. A decent % of bugs reported are simply not bugs. Help us, help everyone.

Besides all the bugs here we also work to fix the ServUO bugs as well:
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
Community Supporter
I understand, and if you had asked me to do so instead of being sure this was how it worked in official even though we agreed it made no sense at all to have it this way, I don't think I would have felt the need to lecture at all. You are welcome for finding this out.
 

kalel83

Novice II
Community Supporter
Since this was found to be different on the real servers, is there an interest in changing how it works in TrueUO?

Thank you Coyotemoon for investigating.

Thank you Dexter for all the hard work you do.
 

Dan

Staff Member
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Yes it will be patched and pushed to ServUO and Heritage.
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
Community Supporter
Just wanted to say that I don't think I will be bothering to report any further bugs. I really don't appreciate trying to help out and report a legitimate bug and to be dismissed out of hand. I have a family and a full time job and a part time job, how is it my responsibility to conduct tests for your game? I did not report this bug to get sov. I will simply buy what I want to buy(though that seems very unlikely to happen again). I did this to fix a bug especially for new players trying to figure out the BOD system and just assuming it is broke. If I report and bug and get chastised for not taking an hour out of my time to figure out if it works that way on official then it simply will never be with it to me to report anything. Yes it took me an hour to register and get in and farm mats for a bod that I had 20% success chance to make. Now people with accounts that could easily test what I did in 5 mins versus my 1 hour want to tell me their time is more valuable than my own.... Yeah rough way to greet people trying to make this server more successful. Also to then state that it worked out perfectly this time after being dismissed out of hand and then directly ignored when Dexter really could not be more wrong is an extra slap in the face. Look be honest with people if you don't want to fix a bug then say it. If you think I am incorrect or simply don't care if I find a bug then that is fine too. It is your shard. Do as you wish. But please don't try to guilt someone for not spending hours to fix your game. I have a wife a kids too so don't act as if my time is plentiful and yours is precious. And Dan I don't want any SOV, but please don't say in a bug thread that you give them out for people helping you and then offer me nothing. I know you were put off by my attitude, but no reason to mention that you do something in a thread that you don't do it.
 

Dexter

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Here were my notes when I wrote the BOD system:

Code:
// On EA, you have to choose the reward before you get the gold/fame reward.  IF you right click the gump, you lose
                    // the gold/fame for that bod.
So, that may have changed, but regardless, I need check it out abit more on EA.
 
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Coyotemoon

Newbie III
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Sounds like you matched it perfectly to the way they had it. Then someone later changed it. Thanks for looking into it. Sorry for my attitude if I offended, been a rough week at work and I might have let some steam out here.
 

xG00BERx

Journeyman
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Sounds like you matched it perfectly to the way they had it. Then someone later changed it. Thanks for looking into it. Sorry for my attitude if I offended, been a rough week at work and I might have let some steam out here.
Takes some humility to admit you may have let your temper out a bit... I've got to say I've lost respect for you.. this is UO and rule 1 of UO is never say sorry ;)

Jk
Everyone has fucked up shitttt let's just all pray the weekend comes soon :)
 

Noah

Apprentice
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I like his spunk! If you're not just a crafter...look up OC guild in game and come play with us... you'll fit right in haha
 

Dexter

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Sounds like you matched it perfectly to the way they had it. Then someone later changed it. Thanks for looking into it. Sorry for my attitude if I offended, been a rough week at work and I might have let some steam out here.
No worries man! I try not to take things too personally in the bug section.
 
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